This is a prime example of a vintage Sabian flat ride that looks almost new -- amazing stick definition that cuts surprisingly, even with amplified music. This is one of the louder flat rides I have heard and has a lot of depth and crash-ability. The wash is present in a supportive way, but never overpowers the sticking. It weights 2322 grams, which makes it a perfect medium flat ride. It is in great condition with no cracks, dents, flea bites or keyhole. I think this could compliment any type of music, except metal. You can check it out for yourself.